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I see, all the clubs that won 3 x flags in the 2000s cheated, except for one club, that happens to be the club you support?

AAT over the top?

Yes of course, that's why they destroyed all the records.

Tip him a fiver and you will get non stop rambling emails.....

Can Bruce Francis type out an emergency injunction application fast enough? Can't believe we never had a Royal Commission into this. It's all connected man, the Freemasons, WADA, Opus Dei, Harold Holt.....

Well for a start Dank is a liar, but note 'take possession' being the words used here. Meh to the meh on this. Isn't there a warrant out on him btw?

Thanks for the link but it's paywalled. I get the gist though :D Waah wahh everybody bad, Hird good.

What did he say? Link? This stuff is great!

Just read the whole forum you are on now..... ;)

Dear Paul You should have been dismembered. But please come to my hearing you arseh*le. Love Bruce Francis

I wonder what it was with this saga and crazy baby boomers....... That probably wasn't the most deranged letter Brasher got this week either.

Woot, today is a great day!

Using "what about them" is not a strong argument. Are you arguing that Melbourne should be punished or that Essendon should not have been punished (and therefore Melbourne has nothing to worry about?

Many retired lunatics with nothing better to do than waste their time. Why bother dissecting something that cannot be appealed?

Whether or not you think the appeal was a joke doesn't matter, there are no further appeals available. Why would a government waste their money on a Royal Commission? There is absolutely zero chance anyone who was at Essendon during the Hird years would ever want a Royal Commission since that...

Mate, this is the most pointless argument. They were found guilty by WADA, the appeal was denied, the saga is over. There is no right of further appeal. By the standard which applies to these cases they were found guilty and nothing will change that - it is a fact.

The scientist quoted (and I suspect the one who fed the story to the Hun) is a 25 year member of the Essendon football club. I agree with the rest of your post though.

Probably, there is also a "Joan Hird" connected to his FOI requests and she has made quite few FOI requests on her own all related to the saga. I guess everyone needs a hobby.

Yep, just another crusader - fairly sure he fed the story to the Hun. My ears pricked up at a random 'scientist' being quoted, although his science has no relevance what he is talking about which is an admin matter, that he is also wrong about but hey, it's the vibe.

So "scientist" Bob O'Dea as quoted in the article seems to be a 25 year member of Essendon who has made multiple FOI requests all related to the drug saga. You can watch him in his Essendon jumper here giving an unbiased account of the"science of the drug saga" at the "Justice for the 34 synopsium"

I reckon this has nothing to do with Hird, just an EFC fan wanting to ride in on shining white horse to save Sir James reputation.

My sympathy for the claim just evaporated. Another linament sniffer.

Dude got a point if thats what he is arguing. So I am EFC fan paying good money in late 2013 to watch my team vie for a finals spot......I have been misled.

It's not really a theory, fairly certain the AFL tipped them off - IIRC Hird stated this under oath in court. The AFL did not however hang them out to dry they carefully managed the process so the AFL tribunal cleared everyone - only because WADA appealled did the whole charade come crashing down.

Fair point - would have been better for the players, far worse for the club.

Yes probably after the initial stages - but without the AFL tipping you off I am tipping you would have been genuinely farked.

How does Jackson Taylor have standing? Who is he?

Nice try

My understanding is he stayed on good behaviour with the Saints and has continued that in retirement. No question he was bad news at WC though. Seriously who cares about this now?

Priceless free publicity for Gatto and his fix ya problems business.