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does anyone know what time the retirees will be paraded around the mcg tomorrow?

shows how much the brownlow count means anyway. how the hell did goodes poll 20 votes this year and kouta only 19 in one of the greatest individual seasons ever. goodes is the most overrated player of the past 10 years....

wow goodes is really batting out of his league! good on him

lol at hughsey saying he would play whitnall in the reserves haha

would this be a bigger upset than the 99 prelim? can anyone remember what the odds of carlton winning in 99 was?

how serious is judds injury? it is a strong possibility that he never gets back to his best....

this comparison is so stupid. would goodes even be in west coasts top 3 players?

ive noticed that the only people who would prefer goodes are sydney fans. remember before last years grand final all the talk was who can stop judd?, not who can stop goodes sure goodes has two brownlows but he will never have the mvp (which judd got last yr). just goes to show that judds...

once again people using awards to defend how good a player is. yes goodes has more brownlows than judd but he also has more than carey and matthews who have a total of 0. this just goes to show you how much a brownlow really means. judd is a much more complete player than goodes who relies...

and better yet joel bowden >jono brown haha

haha going by AA selections than joel bowden=judd:confused:

i think an awesome match up would be judd versus kouta pre knee. who would you guys take?

haha he sure did have massive guns

i would love to see kouta of 2000 play on a fully fit judd. who would come out on top? judd is faster but kouta would own him on overhead marking.

he is easily the bulldogs most important player even at his age

crawford may have more b +f's and AA's than kouta however this is where awards are misleading. kouta has been one of the best finals players in recent memory, being named the player of the 95 finals series (this was in a team that included all time greats such as kernahan, williams, bradley...

yes out of all current day players kouta's best is better than any other as for consistency would have to go with buckley and r harvey

he was also the leagues mvp in 2001 if i remember correctly

congrats to kouta on a wonderful career. my favourite player to watch in his hayday. also in this day and age of drugs and alcohol causing afl players to act as ********s kouta has always set a fine example on and off the field. so long to a fine gentlemen and all the best in retirement champ.

carlton should come out with a best of kouta dvd showing highlights from his career. he would have some of the best highlights out of any player going around imo.

a big misconception when it comes to kouta is that he had only one good season. in a way his 2000 form has been a cause of this belief. he was so good in this year that when people compare the rest of his career they compare it to this year. from 1995 to 2001 he would have been in the top 10...

speaking to a friend about this today and he pointed out some interesting facts: -arch has never won a best and fairest -has polled only 37 brownlow votes in his entire career (harvey has polled over 200!) -never has he been considered in the top 10 players in the league (correct me if i am...

interesting facts: -he has never won a north best and fairest :confused: -polled only 37 brownlow votes in his entire career -never has he considered to be in the top 10 players in the league at anytime during 300 game career

everyone should take a look at this vid. http://www.kouta43.com/ scroll down a little bit and click on the koutaman forever video. i dont think there has ever been a midfielder in the game who could take a mark like kouta. an absolute freak.