Banter The No Dazzlering Big Cricket Thread
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Can we have a conversation about Bumrah and his action just quickly, without it descending into vitriol? Please.
His elbow hyperextends (bends the opposite way), which is (partially) what allows him to generate all that pace off a short, stilted run-up. Is that technically chucking?
It's been quite some time since I've read the laws of the game, but my general understanding has always been that you are not allowed to bend and then straighten your arm during the delivery action.
So...
Is that what Bumrah does? Is it technically illegal? And if so, should it be? Given that the original lawmakers probably never conceived of someone with a hyperextended elbow?
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Yah
How good is the field stacked around a batsmen late on day 5 trying to force a result
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Pretty funny that the only Australian not loudly and enthusiastically appealing is Marnus, who appeals like a pork chop every time the ball comes within a metre of the bat.
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Only 'cos he's going for a 1 in million run out chance
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Such an engaging Test from start to finish, that one. Anytime a Test goes into the final hour of day 5 it's a good-un, but this one was extra special given all the ebb and flow that literally started in the first hour of day 1.
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And can bowl off-spin as well
Averaging 50 in the Shield this year TBF.
He should be a lock.
MM back for the Scorchers hopefully on the 3rd.
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Personal opinion, but Webster strikes me as a 'bits and pieces' all-rounder. i.e. someone who is okay at batting and okay at bowling, but not excelling at either. Test teams can do without such players. At a minimum you want a player who is above average at one of the disciplines.
His elbow hyperextends. It is perfectly legal and fine. Unorthodox but fine. A fantastic bowler.
Not to mention the state of the series, the non result in Brisbane and the chance of rain in Sydney looming.
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Ashes 2005 vibes, for sure.
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I honestly don't know where I sit with this. It's not orthodox chucking, but is it still chucking? I can at least see why the question is raised. (Not trying to be a campaigner about it)
Current regulations of the International Cricket Council (ICC) set a limit of 15 degrees of permissible straightening of the elbow joint for all bowlers in international cricket. This law applies between the point at which the bowling arm passes above shoulder height and the point at which the ball is released. The limit is to allow only the natural flexing of the elbow joint which happens during the course of legal delivery.
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Is he double jointed in that elbow?
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Looks like it just flexes backwards a bit .
There is nothing in the law that says it can't flex backwards only that it can't go more than 15° from straight to bent forwards on delivery.
The fact he get an extra 5° of whip from a hypertension is just lucky I guess .
As much of a freak as bumrah is his body has always struggled with the rigours of bowling having broken down a few times already .
He is definitely not chucking it
I love watching him bowl
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I think it's the other way around. You can't go 15* from bent to straight.
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Joel really is as bad an umpire as it seems
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Can I also just say, my job involves law interpretation, so I'm interested in the black-letter, literal interpretation, reading of the law. Sometimes in my work however, there's ambiguity, which requires a 'spirit of the law' reading. And that's where I think I land with Bumrah. He definitely doesn't look 'chucky'.
Joel Wilson is horrible.
Even the Starc to Jaiswal call, although given "umpire's call", watching live I thought it was more in Starcs favour than Jaiswals.
Mitch Marsh has to be dropped. Well done for holding the catches, although he did juggle both. You have to reward someone else now surely, it's been 4 tests.
Love him, but he isn't doing either part of an all-rounders job.
Even the Starc to Jaiswal call, although given "umpire's call", watching live I thought it was more in Starcs favour than Jaiswals.
Mitch Marsh has to be dropped. Well done for holding the catches, although he did juggle both. You have to reward someone else now surely, it's been 4 tests.
Love him, but he isn't doing either part of an all-rounders job.
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I think he’s basically hyper mobile in that elbow (and possibly his wrist) so much so that the bloke is basically like a human wanger (those ball throwers they use in the nets or people do when throwing the tennis ball for their dogs).
Physiological advantage for sure but I don’t think he’s a chucker.
Plus the way he presents the seam is what makes him elite compared to our blokes; almost always getting a “bolt upright” (to quote the late great Tony Greig) seam from Bumrah which explains the prodigious nip that he gets off the pitch.
