2011...the year of the JON?

I have been very impressed with JON's development over the WAFL season, as he has become more comfortable being back in WA he has produced some brilliant football over the past couple of months.

From 6 goals in a game (albeit against Perth) to constantly producing 20 possession multiple goal games, he has shown that he may be capable of being the Jetta style wingman that we could use on the wide expanses of Subiaco. His disposal is first class from what I have seen and he is also very quick and evasive.

Any thoughts from those who may have seen more of his WAFL performances over the season? What are the areas of his game that he still needs to work on?

Will we make Richmond and his many detractors look silly?

And you all thought I was crazy!!!

Consistancy is the key, and that has been steadily improving this year. Would also like to see him get rid of those silly fumbles and bad decisions that he makes a couple of times a game, but I dont think that will ever happen. The good far out weighs the bad though.

A couple of 25+ games next year and he will be in. Might take him a while to adjust though.

bodazoka said:

And you all thought I was crazy!!!

Consistancy is the key, and that has been steadily improving this year. Would also like to see him get rid of those silly fumbles and bad decisions that he makes a couple of times a game, but I dont think that will ever happen. The good far out weighs the bad though.

A couple of 25+ games next year and he will be in. Might take him a while to adjust though.

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Yeah, but get him a full pre-season and that consistency is more likely to come.

Thorne, I'm about to watch the EP v EF game, as I am still violently upset at my pathetic Swans, so will see how his game went.

swannies said:

Thorne, I'm about to watch the EP v EF game, as I am still violently upset at my pathetic Swans, so will see how his game went.

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Thanks mate I always enjoy reading your analysis of WAFL stuff

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thorne89 said:

Thanks mate I always enjoy reading your analysis of WAFL stuff

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Thanks, you gave me a laugh that I really needed!

Author: Colin Wisbey

Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (East Perth)

188/75 bottom-age right foot (has other foot if necessary) outsidish mid / flanker

*STYLE LIKE: Rob Murphy

*MY RANKING (not meant to reflect appropriate draft pick to use): 5

*PROBABILITY OF AFL CAREER: Definite. Ready year 2.

- Within an AFL team list, could prove capable of SUSTAINING a ranking of 5-10.

*HURT FACTORS (Offensive/Defensive/Negative): M-H / M / L

*TRADEMARK:

- Casually pluck the ball out of the air or cleanly off the turf, then an even more effortless (no, make that "cocky") sell-the-dummy, then skim the turf for 30m then accurate fluent kick to a well spotted target.

*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:

- Oakley-Nicholls is not a top 5 pick, or even top 10, in a typical year's draft. This year is as light on for obvious top 10 quality as 2000 but at least 2000 had Riewoldt, Didak and Kos who looked to be the clear top 3. I can't see Oakley-Nicholls going top 5 even this year but I rank him at 5 on the basis that:-

1. He has indicated an X-factor upside comparable with Ryder, Varcoe, etc but has the advantage that we have seen O-N's form this year offer greater concrete evidence. Any concerns re any disappointment with O-N not having been more consistent (eg not having played many genuine 4-quarter games) can also be levelled at those others with supposed X-factor upside who follow him in my rankings.

2. He has the tricks to turn a game in one quarter. He is genuinely classy. Clean, silky with a bit of magic.

3. No one after him in my rankings would appear to represent a better all-round package of attributes. Jarrad is a great height for a wing/flank, among other possibilities down the track. He also appears to have a reach advantage (unconfirmed). Reliable kick with high hurt factor. Lightning quick. Can take a huge grab. Excellent evasion. Happy to get his own ball. "Never" flustered. Plays in a manner that suggests he will thrive on AFL centre stage once he has settled in.

4. Only about 3 of the next 15 players in my rankings are similarly reliable all round kicks and probably none of those 3 are quite as good.

5. Despite his speed and silkiness, he wins much more than his share of his own ball - in one-in-one physical tussle contests or inside traffic etc. He is no downhill-skier or stranger to hardball gets or to displays of determination/desperation.

- From rural WA but, on-field, always looks self-assured and never seems flustered. One of those players, regardless of age, who just "moves" like an AFL player of class. I first liked him from the '04 U16 Champs. Back then, he was trying to manage problems with his left knee but he really looked "AFL".

If you had pick 5 and your next pick was beyond about pick 10, I think O-N is worth pick 5 thaer than taking the risk of him slipping through, even though that is shorter than his market value. I'm very confident of his AFL future.

*DISPOSAL:
(see above)

- U18 Champs stats were not representative of his kicking's usual accuracy or hurt factor. I would describe him as an "almost routinely excellent" kick - accuracy, hurt, power. Even on the run (as he often is). Economical kicking style.

- Can kick a big goal but is not in the "reliable around goals" class.

- His handballing is good but, in relative terms, possibly not quite as reliable as his kicking.

- Mix of kicks to feeds varies a lot, game by game.

*DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
(see above)

- Generally a good decision-maker. Generally displays poise and looks for options, even on the run.

- Good vision but not always good awareness.

- Uses his body well.

- His average stats are quite healthy and he has had some big games. However it bothers me, just a little, that he doesn't ROUTINELY get more of the pill. He gets his share when at the play but I suspect he needs coaching in where and when to run in order to be in the action more often. Providing a kid is coachable (can listen, understand and implement) I never get overly concerned about kids who tend to be in the wrong places around the ground at 17-18yo. Oakley-Nicholls seems to read the play well enough, especially when he finds himself fairly handy to it. Most kids should be able to improve their positioning if they get the appropriate "match scenario simulation and decision-making dry runs" at their AFL club.

- Importantly, he needs to demand the ball much more often and with more purpose. With his leg-speed he should much more often be running past to offer himself as a potential 80-90m option. Ditto for being more verbally demanding when in good position to have the ball delivered to him.

- Outstanding evasion. Routinely effective, excellent sidestep on the run.

*HANDS:
(see above)

- Routinely clean - ground or waist, on the run or static, under pressure or not.

*OVERHEAD MARKING:

- Very capable and reliable overhead, regardless of pressure. Usually clean hands, usually good judgement, holds his ground. Wins much more than his share of 50/50 contests. I saw him drop a sitter in one WAFL game but that's the only terrible result I can recall.

- He can take the big grab over the back of the pack but he arguably takes more from in front or mid-pack.

*ATHLETICISM:
(see above)

- Terrific athletic package.

- Lightning quick. He would be as quick as anyone in this draft. That's how he looks on-field. His DC times reflect that. 5m time among the top 3% ever and the further they go (over a sprint distance) the more elite his times (top 1% of all times over 20m).

- Offensive agility is excellent. Recovery agility disappointing at times.

- I'm still not sure what to make of Jarrad's leap. There are times when he takes some big grabs yet at other times he seems to struggle for leap. I just haven't been able to identify a pattern. Perhaps in certain body on body situations he waits a bit long to jump and finds the opponent(s) has already taken his vertical pathway, or something like that (?), or the cause may even just be injury at the time.

- Very skinny but looks to have a frame that will fill out OK. His game is such that it is not vital to add more than about 7kg. (Would be desirable though).

- Endurance query at the moment. Died in the bum late in various games this year and somewhat below average beep would either support this (no cause for long-term concern) or suggest he doesn't push himself out fully at this stage..

*INTENSITY, ETHIC:
(see above)

- Intensity is generally good except that he often seems unaccountable to his own opponent.. That bothers me in itself but O-N is no less accountable than many/most other similar-role contenders for 1st or 2nd (or even 3rd) round picks this year.

- For his "flashy" type, his "at the scene" intensity is surprisingly quite consistently good - Attack on ball, attack on man, ratio of 50/50 contests won, genuine desperation (including smothers etc).

- Tackling effectiveness needs improvement.

*CONSISTENCY:

- Not that consistent statistically. He had at least one 30+ disposals game this year and a couple high 20s but he is usually around the low-mid teens.

- I would say his effort level is pretty consistent. He is though, one of those players who, when hot, can be very hot. He can have a quiet quarter but then have (say) 15 minutes where he is on-fire.

*AFL VERSATILITY:
(see above)

- Outside mid ("wing") suits ideally but there are other roles at AFL where he could inflict serious damage.

- If he can adopt a more accountable mentality, he could be dynamite running off/through half-back. (That is the role I would like ti see him strat out in).

- He also shows some talent inside traffic so perhaps an onball role down the track (but he is a long way off that, endurance-wise).

- There is probably no reason why he couldn't handle AFL HFF or FP. However, I prefer him in a role in which he can see the play unfold essentially in his flight path and exploit his superior pace, especially direct, so that his main value is as a regularly 80-90m play-breaker.

*CSI (COMPARATIVE SCOPE for IMPROVEMENT):

- Probably normal.

*QUERY:

- Endurance.

*SOME STATS:

- '05 WAFL Colts:
Avg approx 17disposals (incl 3 marks) in his 15 Colts games. Also played 2 Seniors games.

- Stats summary '05 U18 Champs:
Averaged 7 disposals and 2.3 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 12).
Kicks per 20 disp: 15.
Kicks long vs short: 3-9 (3 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 4/17 (2.4 per 10 kicks), incl 2 clangers (1.2 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 3/5 (6.0 per 10 handballs), incl 1 clangers (2.0 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 7/22 (6.4 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.7 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 2/22 (2 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 2/22 (2 per 20 disp).
S.P. clearances: 2/22 (2 per 20 disp), incl 0 BU (0 per 20 disp), incl 2 CBC (2 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 4 (Avg 1.3 per game).
Marks: 7 (6 per 20 disp), incl 2 contested (2.9 per 10 marks).

*OTHER STUFF:

- Added to '05 U18 trial squad. DOB orig listed as 2/9/88 but should be 9/2/88.
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2.85sec 20m Sprint time, 7.97sec agility test

He just needs a huge preseason bulk and endurance wise, if he does I wouldn't be surprised to see him play round 1.

Geez thats a great and accurate assessment of JON. The only down fall is he paid too much attention to his strengths and assumed his weaknesses would sort themselves out in an AFL system.

That part about kids being coachable with there positioning if they are able to listen and learn is pretty damming.

- His average stats are quite healthy and he has had some big games. However it bothers me, just a little, that he doesn't ROUTINELY get more of the pill. He gets his share when at the play but I suspect he needs coaching in where and when to run in order to be in the action more often. Providing a kid is coachable (can listen, understand and implement) I never get overly concerned about kids who tend to be in the wrong places around the ground at 17-18yo. Oakley-Nicholls seems to read the play well enough, especially when he finds himself fairly handy to it. Most kids should be able to improve their positioning if they get the appropriate "match scenario simulation and decision-making dry runs" at their AFL club.

JON obviously had allot of trouble learning and implementing

Still has a long way to go but not delist worthy.

If he can become a regular in the side over a relatively long period of time and provide solid pace and run then I will be very happy.

Will never be more than a good but inconsistent player at best IMO.

What position would there be for him in the team

byron_clanger said:

What position would there be for him in the team

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High Half Forward or Wingman.

He needs greater consistency of effort from quarter to quarter as well as from game to game. His kicking is special and he's strong overhead, get him to play on move his pace and agility to open up the oppositions defence.

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His average stats are quite healthy and he has had some big games. However it bothers me, just a little, that he doesn't ROUTINELY get more of the pill. He gets his share when at the play but I suspect he needs coaching in where and when to run in order to be in the action more often. Providing a kid is coachable (can listen, understand and implement) I never get overly concerned about kids who tend to be in the wrong places around the ground at 17-18yo. Oakley-Nicholls seems to read the play well enough, especially when he finds himself fairly handy to it. Most kids should be able to improve their positioning if they get the appropriate "match scenario simulation and decision-making dry runs" at their AFL club.

JON obviously had allot of trouble learning and implementing

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That's always going to be the "annoying" thing with JON, although P Matera didn't consistently get stat numbers in the 30s, neither did C Lewis, but what they did with the ball hurt you nearly every time. No doubt today JON was a match winner, including those marks in the last quarter, under some pressure. He seems to have come along a fair bit in the latter part of this year, really stood up.

Watched todays EFv EP game mainly to see JON.

Apart from his first fumble and out one the full, I though he was pretty damn impressive. And his kicking!!! WOW, just looks to come so easy and hits targets at will. Lecca could kick 100 with that delivery!!!

Above is correct in that he probably needs to get more ball but could be very damaging from 4-5 disposals in a qtr.

Made me think, how good would it be to have Strijk and JON playing on the HFF's and pushing up to the wings??

Mez

There was a passage of play, in the first quarter, about 5mins after his OOTF, where he took possession 30m out from the opposition goal. He gave off the ball, continued to run, received, gave off and received and kicked the goal. He had 3 or 4 possessions in the one play and escorted the ball the whole way down the field. If he can repeat this kind of play regularly, he'll be playing AFL again, shortly.

JON would be a better option than Houlihan, Rosa, Stevenson.
Woodhouse was correct didn't lose skill just confidence

Can also play in the centre and clear the ball to good effect.

He loves to take them on and creates so much.

Went to the game yesterday, but as no parking missed the first quarter.

EP moved the ball much better than EF.

thorne89 said:

Thanks mate I always enjoy reading your analysis of WAFL stuff

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I am a long suffering Demons fan!

at what pick did richmond take him at?

pantskyle said:

at what pick did richmond take him at?

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Pick 8 - 2005

Marlin01 said:

There was a passage of play, in the first quarter, about 5mins after his OOTF, where he took possession 30m out from the opposition goal. He gave off the ball, continued to run, received, gave off and received and kicked the goal. He had 3 or 4 possessions in the one play and escorted the ball the whole way down the field. If he can repeat this kind of play regularly, he'll be playing AFL again, shortly.

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Sounds great! Being in Vic I don't get to see any WAFL but it sounds like JON could be one of the few things we have to be genuinely excited about for next year. Here's hoping he can keep up his improvement

killerEagle said:

Sounds great! Being in Vic I don't get to see any WAFL but it sounds like JON could be one of the few things we have to be genuinely excited about for next year. Here's hoping he can keep up his improvement

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He's the perfect type of player to have on the rookie list IMO. Offers something we need, cost us virtually nothing and has huge potential upside. The chances of him becoming a great AFL player are slim and he's got a hell of a long way to go, but you never know. One thing's for sure, he's never going to be an honest plodder.

pick 8 and we got him for nothing. if he's only problems are learning difficulties then this could be a diamond in the rough. Is he in the lewis jetta mould?

pantskyle said:

pick 8 and we got him for nothing. if he's only problems are learning difficulties then this could be a diamond in the rough. Is he in the lewis jetta mould?

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Similiar to jetta yes. and bennell.

Its all about consistency as is the problem with so many of these types of players not only consistency throughout a game in each quarter but from week to week. If he can get up to a 20 possie a goal a game AFL player i will be very happy. with his skills pace and agility he could be very damaging in this way. Hope he has a great pre-season and debut's next year.

Intersting. The guy is a gun in the Richard Tambling mould but nowhere near Richie's ability.

Perhaps we could do a trade... your first pick for Tambling?

Tambling running those wide open spaces would be magical to see

The Dice Man said:

Intersting. The guy is a gun in the Richard Tambling mould but nowhere near Richie's ability.

Perhaps we could do a trade... your first pick for Tambling?

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No thanks mate. We'll wait for you to delist him and take him in the rookie draft