Essendon's Treatment of Kepler

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Woefull ..

Fancing delisting him after knocking back offers during trade week to send him back to his home state. Virtually sacking him and losing him for nothing - leaving him in limbo and what looks likely to be stuck in Victoria.

On top of that - you have the hyde to jump on your moral high horse about the way we supposedly treated Kennedy throughout the entire Chris Judd saga.

Laughable.

For the record, I dont disagree that Kepler wasn't performing as you would expect a pick #6 to.
 
C4[2]Yo`DooR said:
Woefull ..

Fancing delisting him after knocking back offers during trade week to send him back to his home state. Virtually sacking him and losing him for nothing - leaving him in limbo and what looks likely to be stuck in Victoria.

On top of that - you have the hyde to jump on your moral high horse about the way we supposedly treated Kennedy throughout the entire Chris Judd saga.

Laughable.

For the record, I dont disagree that Kepler wasn't performing as you would expect a pick #6 to.
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Agreed. That is a really shocking way to handle things.

Poor Kepler :(
 

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Agree completely - either Essendon are woeful hopeless at managing their list and hadn't made a decision about Bradley before the trade period or they have been complete aholes with regard to looking after player welfare. Fair enough to try to milk a second round pick from Freo and to hold out for as long as possible, but with 5 minutes to go it should have been clear that pick 40 was as good as they could get from the Dockers and they should have taken it.

Realistically, it is this sort of behaviour that makes the players association push for some form of free agency seem understandable.
 
TheFridge said:
Agree completely - either Essendon are woeful hopeless at managing their list and hadn't made a decision about Bradley before the trade period or they have been complete aholes with regard to looking after player welfare. Fair enough to try to milk a second round pick from Freo and to hold out for as long as possible, but with 5 minutes to go it should have been clear that pick 40 was as good as they could get from the Dockers and they should have taken it.

Realistically, it is this sort of behaviour that makes the players association push for some form of free agency seem understandable.
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Weren't Freo refusing to give anything more than 52?
 
TheFridge said:
Agree completely - either Essendon are woeful hopeless at managing their list and hadn't made a decision about Bradley before the trade period or they have been complete aholes with regard to looking after player welfare. Fair enough to try to milk a second round pick from Freo and to hold out for as long as possible, but with 5 minutes to go it should have been clear that pick 40 was as good as they could get from the Dockers and they should have taken it.

Realistically, it is this sort of behaviour that makes the players association push for some form of free agency seem understandable.
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They were willing to take pick 40 in the end. Freo decided they didn't want to give it up though.
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
52 is better than nothing. We are talking about people here, not cattle.
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It's not much better than nothing in this draft.The picking will probably stop late 50's

Seems fair enough to me.Essendon tried to do whats best for Essendon,it just didn't work.

Richmond tried to shop Danny Meyer and Hartigan.Theres a reasonable chance both will now be delisted.No difference really.
 
C4[2]Yo`DooR said:
Virtually sacking him and losing him for nothing - leaving him in limbo and what looks likely to be stuck in Victoria.
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Same could be said for what you guys did for Lance Whitnall?
 
I dont think many people ever believed he would make a league footballer, but to deny him a chance at a second club over a very speculative draft pick (40 or 56 whats the real difference?) is quite rotten.

Its a bit similar wht we did to Lance Whitnall, but the difference there is that Lance has already had a long career, and its obvious his body can't handle it any more. Kepler is young and deserved another chance.
 
what crap!

we agreed to upgrade our 4th round pick to their pick 40, for Bradley in the end, and it was FREO who wouldnt agree.

They didnt want to deal because they knew they would get him free in the PSD.

Essendon were not offered pick 40 for Freo, it was only ever an upgrade of 15 or so picks. Freo still didnt want to lock Kepler in for that, instead risking the PSD.

If anything, it shows how much Freo think of Keplar.
 

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Smokin said:
what crap!

we agreed to upgrade our 4th round pick to their pick 40, for Bradley in the end, and it was FREO who wouldnt agree.

They didnt want to deal because they knew they would get him free in the PSD.

Essendon were not offered pick 40 for Freo, it was only ever an upgrade of 15 or so picks. Freo still didnt want to lock Kepler in for that, instead risking the PSD.

If anything, it shows how much Freo think of Keplar.
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It's Kepler not Keplar.

He was played out of position. When there's not as much pressure on him to be accountable for some huge monster in defence he can be quite use (yes, with his disposal too, suprsingly!).

Keps will prosper with another team if played on the HF line as a linkman type player.
 
Aren't all national draft selections guaranteed two years ?

Why would Essendon want to waste a 3rd round pick in a very thin draft and maintain that player on the list for two years. Probably better off getting a player on a one year deal from the pre season draft.

Also, tying up a 3rd round pick in a thin draft this year means one less player we may be able to get next season in what is expected to be a bumper draft.

Its called forward planning.

Am liking what Knights is doing so far.
 
unexplained said:
Geelong, I think, have shown the way for other clubs when dealing with players that are no longer required at the club. Why should Essendon expect anything of any worth at all off Freo if they were going to delist him anyway?
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We AGREED to the trade Freo offered. Freo then pulled out for whatever reason.

Geez there are some idiots around here.
 
Smokin said:
what crap!

we agreed to upgrade our 4th round pick to their pick 40, for Bradley in the end, and it was FREO who wouldnt agree.

They didnt want to deal because they knew they would get him free in the PSD.

Essendon were not offered pick 40 for Freo, it was only ever an upgrade of 15 or so picks. Freo still didnt want to lock Kepler in for that, instead risking the PSD.

If anything, it shows how much Freo think of Keplar.
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No

ManWithNoName said:
Actually we agreed to the trade, but then Freo pulled out. But let's not let facts get in the way.
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And no.

Greg Miller was asked on SEN yesterday "was any one club harder to deal with over trade week than the others?" His answer was "Kevin (Sheedy) was always hard to deal with and nothing's changed since he's left".

He gave the impression that Essendon we're being their usual unrealistic selves.

I can't believe we didn't jump at Darren Walsh for Scott West.
 
scooter600x said:
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And no.

Greg Miller was asked on SEN yesterday "was any one club harder to deal with over trade week than the others?" His answer was "Kevin (Sheedy) was always hard to deal with and nothing's changed since he's left".

He gave the impression that Essendon we're being their usual unrealistic selves.

I can't believe we didn't jump at Darren Walsh for Scott West.
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So we're bad because we accepted the trade Freo offered, only for them to pull out?
 
unexplained said:
Geelong, I think, have shown the way for other clubs when dealing with players that are no longer required at the club. Why should Essendon expect anything of any worth at all off Freo if they were going to delist him anyway?
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Different situations. Geelong tried to offload excess players in order to keep TPP below the cap. Collingwood too traded Ben Davies for pick 96. Essendon though are rebuilding and trying to get as many early draft picks as possible.

Essendon still believe that Kepler has some value and being offered pick 52 is a slap in the face. Fremantle not offering pick 40 (not worth much at all) is incredibly arrogant and I think Mark Harvey is trying to make his mark after lots of trading in the past, also making a statement to his old club.

Fremantle's behaviour is worse than Collingwood with the Stevens saga.

Essendon were right to not give in. They must get picks to rebuild, unfortunately though this is a shallow draft and therefore they must be high.
 
PinCushion said:
It's Kepler not Keplar.

He was played out of position. When there's not as much pressure on him to be accountable for some huge monster in defence he can be quite use (yes, with his disposal too, suprsingly!).

Keps will prosper with another team if played on the HF line as a linkman type player.
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Thats your opinion. The guy who coached him as a forward last season doesnt seem too fussed in letting him go.

We agreed to the trade, it was Fremantle who didnt think he was worth 15 spots in a weak draft.

He may well prosper, he may not. Good luck to him, he will only bite us on the arse if he becomes a better forward than Gumbleton or Neagle, or better defender than Daniher or perhaps Ryder. Time will tell, but I think we have done by far the best thing to let him go. He wasnt worth much to Essendon in regards to team balance (and obviously aint rated too highly by Freo either.)
 
typical bomber bashers, it happens every year to players, funny coming from a carlton fan who did it to to their captain and servant of the club, if they dont make the cut and the plans, and the club doesnt get wat they want for them its all ova. players know that.
 
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