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I thought, we Brisbane traded our 2024 third round pick to GC.

Lore can we get this moved to the draft page, and get it operational? It's not "Live" currently.

lol Gulden wasn't hidden. Was a star of the U18 carnival. Everyone who follows the draft had him as a top 15 to 20 prospect. On talent alone, he was rated significantly higher, but he was also short. The question was always, how would clubs weigh up his talent versus his height.

The most recent Allies team at last years draft, 4 of the first 6 allies kids drafted, weren't from academy teams. 2 were from Tassie, and the other 2 were from the Riverina and played in Vics Talent League for the Murray Bushrangers. There were 10 Allies kids drafted in the first round, 5...

I can only go on what I have been told and read over a few years. I will not be mentioning who told me what. From what I've been told, for many years our academy was largely in name only, and was as much a money making exercise, as it was about developing talent. As one person said, "any kid...

I wish Auskick participation rates actually translated in to lots of gun draft prospects up here. Sadly we aren't seeing that yet.

Because they give us a leg up on the rest of the competition.

You know you got some last year right.

Is it not somewhat telling that Sydney had to offer the biggest contract in AFL history to get a player to their team. A very good player, not sure he’s the best to ever move clubs, despite all his achievements.

Because more of the traditional AFL playing areas of NSW fall in to GWS's zones (and in the case of far north eastern NSW, fall in to Gold Coasts zones).

Again, participation numbers mean sfa, if the talented kids are playing other sports. The simple numbers coming through the draft don't bare out that NSW is catching up to a sustainable level. Brisbane in recent years has been the outlier amongst the Northern clubs in terms of ability to...

Oh, I don't believe it's realistic either. The AFL can't make quality players (I'm thinking restricted free agent types) join any team. My point was, for North to become competitive in the next 3 years, you'd need to add half a dozen quality players in the 26 to 28 age bracket. Not keep going...

Not so much the Victorian clubs.

The easy rebuttal to this is the number of kids from each state that eventually get drafted. Sure, junior participation rates are great stats, but if the athletically elite NSW kids are mostly playing other sports, those participation rates mean sfa for this discussion. How many Vic kids were...

When all the Victorian advantages are removed, and Vic kids stop draft tampering (looking at you Sheezel, Hobbs, Perkins, Smith, Worpel, etc)

My point about your previous post still stands. It was disingenuous, as half the kids who are club tied over the next few drafts are father sons, not academy kids. Heck, 4 of those academy kids are also father son kids to, St Kilda, Brisbane, Melbourne and Hawthorn. 3 probably choose father...

That U18 Allies team. 3 of the best players, and potential top 25 draftees, are Tasmanian. Though North are trying to get priority access to one of them. Another two are from the Riverina, play for the Murray Bushrangers, and not in any academy, therefore in the open draft. There’s the three...

Himmelberg (the other one) who plays for the Crows.

But that’s a good thing. Without academies, how many of those kids would have chosen AFL as a sport? Tom Green more than likely. But how many others? Heeney has said in many interviews that without the Swans academy, he was headed for rugby league. It’s not like all the players listed are...

Half of those 15 to 30 kids aren’t academy kids, they are father son kids. So your “point” is very disingenuous. Next year’s draft crop, especially the first two rounds, is chock full of Victorian father son kids. Even though half of them are born and raised South Australians. Maybe 1...

I have a “problem” with the AFL’s stance, that they don’t want to see clubs missing out on finals for a period longer than 5 years. That’s not realistic. If you are club that genuinely bottoms out like Gold Coast and North have done, West Coast is about to do, and will primarily build through...

And 95% of those kids play a sport other than AFL. While Sydney has “access” to so many kids, it’s really a myth, because most aren’t interested in AFL. If AFL was the number one sport in NSW, they would be producing more kids than Victoria (who produces 60% of each year’s draft crop). Fact...

Oh I believe in draft integrity. No academies or father sons. I don't believe in compensation picks either. Or Priority Picks. But I also believe in longer contracts for draftees. Minimum of 4 years, with clubs having the right to extend contracts out to 8 years, if they want to keep a...

Not blaming Sydney for anything. The northern academy clubs are supposed to be successful. That was the AFL's original intent. The problem is, that they other 3 academies haven't really caught up to Sydney yet. Gold Coast look like they're getting there. Still waiting for Brisbane's...

lol you listened Footy Classified and believed their b.s. Daniher's contract didn't get torn up. The AFL wouldn't allow that, as that's actually part of free agent contract rules (free agent contracts can not be changed, and must be paid out as per the original offer, even if the player...

We've had 1 first round academy kid in 10 years.

Schache & McStay. Schache didn't work out. McStay is a good role player and is missed (by some). We (Lions) need to be prioritising talls this draft (with our currently weak draft hand). We might have a couple in our academy in next years draft.

Stop drafting mids and forward flankers with high picks every draft between 2016 and 2022. North have sooo much young talent, but it’s all in the same two areas of the ground.

And you keep ignoring the central part to your current predicament. You did it to yourselves. And you keep doing it to yourselves. You refuse to acknowledge or discuss this part of the discussion. We weren’t sh!t in the fourth year (2019), because we traded in a heap of veterans and a...