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figured you were Tasmanian, I'm a Hobartian as well.....

Yep underprivileged for living here apparently

He wouldn't survive down here.

High risk.....good luck; just cause it worked in the past does not mean it will continue to do so. The reason you do not have high draft picks is not only your high position but that you keep off loading them Hawks really are looking at having no class coming through but looking for the...

Didn't lose their best players - shipped em off, right or wrong Time will tell with this = but high risk and as a Saints supporter very happy with the pick swap with them

draft smartly and trade for need

where did you hear this ? When the club says he is a required player (as they did today) does that mean it times for people on BF to say he is on the move????

Time will tell; Back to THIS years draft - Gresham, White, Rice and O'Kearney ; I'm happy with that. Throw in Carlsilse and Freeman and it is a damn good off season for the Saints. Again time will tell. And I back in our recruiting team; opinion on McCartin being 'a meat and potatoe type...

Sort of post only put up for a reaction; yep I'll bite!! Saints playing the long game , to have a verdict on this I reckon can not be made to end of 16 /17. I admit McCartin intrigues me, as to what sort of player he will end up. There is no way that he can be written off now. One thing is...

Fair call -Pies have been playing the long game

Trade time like draft time needs time; Geelong definitely on first impression the winners (need short term big wins otherwise there will be a lot of long term pain). Carlton a mystery with Menzel going out and those four coming in from GWS, Melbourne have picks, Collingwood similar to Geelong...

Wow you lot never cease to amaze Fair trade is not 5 for Carlisle - do you actually think that? Your list manager has sold you some lines it started with we will not be involved with 3rd party clubs and expect 5 your level of expectation is ridiculous. Tell what is a 'fair trade' let's just give...

Good luck with that - cause all you have to feel proud of at the moment is how bad you are to deal with, must make you all feel grand

have to agree it has not been released officially - what you sugest below will probably get the NDS deal done:

cheers- for what it's worth hope something can get locked in with North for NDS

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-is-desperate-to-make-a-big-bang-next-season/story-fn69a32t-1226736964889 reported here as well as other places so yes official. Saints are proactive for a change

ok - one pick and a lower pick and Savage - still think both clubs have done well out of this trade. Mr Magic you need to look at where the clubs are at that is what the Saints have done - who is to say they will not also pick up a ruckmen with one of their lower pick as well as having three...

yep Saints get 2 picks, so Saints have done well

Interesting post - Saints are actually doing what they need to do, address the gaps in their list, get good picks and not give away players and they are doing the wrong thing? In the past when we traded for Lovett etc yep there was deserved critical analysis but this trade period deserves...