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That was Kennett throwing mud at the AFL after the fact. Kennett wasn’t even at the club when the women’s team was being spoken about.

Excluding themselves from the first year DOES NOT mean “Hawthorn didn’t want a bar of it”.

Hawthorn not applying for the initial year of the comp is not confirmation of “hawthorn not wanting a bar of it”. Far from it.

Oh FFS. “Hawthorn just sat back and let all the other clubs do the heavy lifting for years 1 and 2”. “Hawthorn didn’t want a bar of it” “Hawthorn waited until they saw how popular it was, and then it was like what about meeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it isnt fair...” These are all facts that are...

Fact: Starting from the Op all of your comments have been without balance, and have continued through the thread. “Hawthorn just sat back and let all the other clubs do the heavy lifting for years 1 and 2”. “Hawthorn didn’t want a bar of it” “Hawthorn waited until they saw how popular it...

This is bullshit, along with your "Hawthorn just sat back and let everyone else do the heavy lifting" comments. You're choosing to continually attribute a reason for Hawthorn not apply for an initial license as some sort of "f-you" to all the other clubs and the leage, when that is not based on...

How are you still not getting this? Hawthorn applied at the same time as all the other clubs who applied for the second intake. Your “Hawthorn just say around letting others do the heavy lifting for years 1 and 2” line is bullshit. There was a whole bunch of clubs who were t part of year 1...

Hang on, Hawthorn applied after the initial season. You are wrong to continue to claim that he was “sitting back and letting everyone else do the heavy lifting” and as I said they were frozen out in favour if clubs that are basketcases.

Inciteful way of delivering the OP. Hawthorn were frozen out of the AFLW last intake, while clubs like the Suns were handed a side. Kennett has every right to ask the AFL what their plans are.

*unwatches thread*

Welcome to 12 hours ago. I’ll leave you guys to flap your arms in exasperation now.

I’m telling you that if you have a transgender “friend” who you have shared your opinions with, you’re not as good a friend as you think you are.

So should we be playing 18yr old draftees in games where 211cm Aaron Sandilands could possibly crash into them?

So you don't believe in it. You think it's just their opinion.

Just don't ever get excited by Hawthorn recruiting a 215cm ruckman, ok? We wouldn't want him to be bigger and stronger than anyone else in the league. That wouldn't be fair.

Probably because of the fear campaign the "No" campaign is using to suck all the halfwits into thinking marriage equality will mean that their kids are going to be forced into doing something they don't want to do, or some other crap. Ever been into a unisex toilet? Did your world collapse? You...

So understanding or showing compassion towards transgender people is something you need to buy into? And Gender dysphoria is an opinion that someone has come to, that you don't have to agree with?

Who is forcing anything on you? No one is forcing a damn thing on you. So you're not a heartless bastard, but you've decided to call 'Hannah' a man while you're here, despite her attempts and quite clear conviction that she is to be as close to a woman as she can phsyically get.

So it's not about size?

Some of you heartless bastards don’t seem to understand a damn thing when it comes to transgender people and what they are both dealing with and have to put themselves through in order to feel “right”. It’s all so black and white for you. Well done. Do you understand anything about the...

The hormone treatment, the fact she’s going through with the op and has decided that she identifies and wants to be as physically alike to a female as possible.

Crap decision by the AFL. Hannah’s testosterone levels are minimal and don’t allow her to be a power athlete from what I understand. She’s pre-op, but she isn’t a man. The AFL’s reasoning that she’s too big, is just damn odd. Are we going to ban ruckman seeing as they are bigger than rovers...

Who only wants what?

Can't understand the outrage. Good luck to her. Or do people expect that all players in a sporting competition must be the same size and have the same strength? Can't wait for Brad Hill to complain that Tom Hawkins shouldn't be in the same comp.