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I'm not sure, nick. I dont know. Perhaps Ross could answer that, tho studios probably never reveal costs, expenses, losses, profits, fundings, etc. That was my suggestion unaware whether it had been done before or whether the AFL have been approached before. AFL an obvious target for funding...

Again, I greatly appreciate another person providing some real figures and hypotheses back. My tack is...increasing budget will increase the sales cap especially for Aussie sports game, especially AFL. Increased budget not at BigAnt's risk, but the AFL who are happy to throw 200+million dollars...

2-3 million consoles in Aus. Wow. There's a plausible ceiling. Thanks for someone finally relaying some info back.

Ross and I are enjoying a good trash-talk here and there. I certainly respect his job and what he's trying to do. I have nothing to garner his respect for. I haven't created or fund anything. But the stuff I say towards suggestions and 'pushing' only comes from a good-heartedness for the...

I am not mean-spirited. I don't expect a 'Madden 12' now or next year. All the bells and whistles. Game-play/features > graphics, imo. Continual improvement/enhancement shown from year to year....more offline franchise options, like 10 seasons worth, with drafts, trades, etc, especially an...

Particularily? What did you say about my writing skills? :) Btw, why are all your posts bolded? At BigAnt studios, do you feel the need to stomp when walking so people notice you more than you are already noticed? :eek: I'll buy the game eventually, Mr.Symons. The more patching done to fix...

vealesy... only have to read the plethora of people posting on here how it's happening. i dont have to buy the game myself to comment on that. it exists, and is a big deterrent for people who own the game or want to buy the game, seeing as offline there isnt a lot to the game and the fun is...

I havent got the game yet, but I do hope BigAnt do what EA did eventually. On the patch, make sure whomever quits or loses connection gets given a loss. This sort of thing MUST be stopped at all costs. Ruins the longevity of the game when onliners can get away with glitching and quitting without...

Forgot to mention Uncharted3 too. Shh, ThunderPower, I'm trying to bait Mr Symons :footy:

Our money is already in your pocket. Games stores/etc buy the games, so you already sold your 80,000-85,000. $110 brand new, is this right? Not only does that revise the hypothetical gross return to $10M minus whatever take the retailers get, but i dunno. No disrespect, Mr.Symons, but compare...

My local video store and their other affiliate stores do not have a copy of AFL Live to rent. They're "looking into" purchasing it. So I wont be able to rent this game for weeks/months.

Off-topic...grr gotta reply...sorry... was this your own software you developed? is this how you worked your way up to where you are today? you should PM Smiths about a certain online madden league, if you're interested in joining, that kind of analysis would serve you well against the guns...

haha :p nah im not like that. anyway....shhh back on AFL Live topic!

We have, but i boo still. trash talk etc can be fun. Anyway, you the boss :thumbsu::rolleyes::D

Good game with the put downs back and forth, i thought it was cool/funny. Lots of touche's. Seriously, sorry for veering the thread off-topic, I'll let it get back on topic. Look for me on PSN this weekend, I'll be ready to play some games against all-comers. I never quit/rage-quit either to...

Boo @ clean-up. :( (cmon, that was a good/funny exchange between us both) Raiders > Redskins ;)

call the waambulance. bring it on the field...sometime this week. anyway, it's up to Mr.Symons and others and me what we want to reply to or not. say what you want, or dont say it. hostile or not. forthcoming with info and civil debate or not. i'll pick and choose who/what i reply to, like...

btw, sometime this week i'll rent the game, take a day or two to break the game down, and then i'll challenge any of you, including Mr.Symons. psn: killer-ontheroad (if there's a lobby, look out for me). im either going to defeat pretty much everyone, or fail to beat anyone. so dont miss out...

Code, language. Programs are built to produce an output. A mass of algorithms for game-play. How animations interact and the result of situations on the field, attributes, etc. How the final product plays on the field is evident of its programming. Anyone who plays the game, sees flaws in how...

Ant_ I've seen other reviews of 6 yes. My point was to bring up that someone other than GG did savage the game, a game reviewer, and those kinds of reviews are just as valid as those who lavish extreme praise. Seriously read thru his review tho, there are many "awful coding" comments he makes...

God-awful coding... Refers to actual game-play. Not the graphics, menus, or the 2 songs, or lack of features. The coding of the game-play mechanics isn't very good. And many of you have said so yourselves. What, I or people can't be critical or honest? One must ass-kiss? Game reviews of AFL Live...

Didn't intend to be belittle the developers, there's labor and time involved, hard work of people. But it's good that you take offense because the game is of a poor standard (obviously commensurate to the limited budget available) compared to next-gen standards and sporting titles in general...

At least Biggy_Boy understands my comments. Good questions....where to get funding. That's the next step of my thinking. Contact NM, see what they can offer, do, help in, cost, work out a budget, exhaust avenues looking for funding, the AFL commission is all about spreading the development of...

I appreciate the elongated post, don't apologize for that. The error both of you make tho is in over-stating/exaggerating what I said. I didn't say LA Noire, or am unaware of the sales required to break even, like i don't understand business, or that you spend x means you need to sell y in...

So you want to never raise a bar or push or progress? There's no money whatsoever in Australia? No entrepreneurs, avenues for funding? enough to turn the budget to something that will make an actual 'top' game? The 80,000 is not a cap of possible sales. How many Australian sales for top games...

Well that's pretty bad, considering we're talking about the #1 sport of Australia, the sport of this country, and serving 20 million population. Canada, with a similar demographic/population/etc, could produce something better, not to diss, but to push for better from here. Part of me also...

PS Network got hacked and has been down since Easter non-stop. It's only starting to get back up in the US now, still need a day or two for AUS to be back up.

Suggestion to BigAntStudios/Ross... I checked out some gameplay footage of AFL Live on youtube. It's god-awful coding and very thin on player animations. Can already see how to 'game' the game, very little to it. The devs need to try teaming up with Natural Motion imo, that would at least make...