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Yeah, it might not be smoke and mirrors though, he may have just recovered quicker than expected, just like Spargo is taking WAY longer than expected. Every chance he won't get up of course, but just thought it interesting he was apparently doing a fitness test.

He's in charge of Competition Analysis at Champion Data.

Same injury report has Spargo as 2-3 weeks. He was 2-3 weeks 3 weeks ago. Injuries are unpredictable at times. If Disco was doing a fitness test as suspected they wouldn't be doing that without thinking he could be a chance.

It clearly has, and now the media are talking about. Worth listening to the segment as it outlines it a bit. We didn't always move the ball slowly, sure we did it from kick ins and often from the defensive half, but we charged from stoppages and had huge inside 50 numbers. Those numbers have...

Full segment is here from about 39 minutes in. Talks about how inaccurate goal kicking cost us last year and how we've changed our style this year but it's not working. (Trigger warning for people who don't understand expected score and don't think our style has changed) "This isn't us, and...

According to a Demonland track watcher, Disco was spotted at Gosch's today doing what seemed like a fitness test.

Ok, well from the same game, same team, same role... Jack Viney 9th for contested possessions 6th for clearances 2nd for tackles 7th for ground ball gets Fair criticism is fine, but it's silly how the pile on goes more over the top with every post here.

Doubt that either team even scores 27 points...

100% mate. My biggest issue with our midfield over the last 3 years has been we just kick it straight over half forward. We just completely bypass the players who should be kicking it inside 50.

Yeah 100% can be at least in part due to forward structure. In saying that, here's where they rank in terms of worst kicking efficiency for us this year: Gawn - 2nd worst Oliver - 4th worst Viney - 7th worst Petracca - 8th worst Trac and Viney not too bad for mids around the 60%ish mark, but...

I would counter that with saying not many other teams have their 4 primary midfielders (Gawn, Trac, Oliver, Viney) regularly in the worst 20 kicks in the league for kick retention. Kicking is pretty clearly a weakness for our group.

I'm not talking about his form, I'm talking about it being an example of how we mishandle injuries. He clearly shouldn't have been playing, they should have sent him off for surgery straight away and let him miss a couple of games, but they pushed it and he was rubbish for at least 2 of the...

I wouldn't have thought so hey. Not sure if he's getting on the front foot because we lost and thought there might be backlash?

You don't say...

Brayshaw - Retired due to concussion Jackson - Requested a trade home, we got good picks for him Hibberd - Retired Jordon - Free agent, left due to not being played Bedford - Left due to not being played Hunt - Lol. Seriously. Not sure exactly what you're trying to say by listing Melksham and...

Lol you picked out two weak examples mate. One where a premiership side lured an extremely rare gun free agent, and another where the currency was there due to a gun player demanding a trade out. Details matter. The evidence is all there about how disappointed you are in Hunter and Billings...

This part I can 100% get around. Aside from the obvious game style stuff, this is what we need to be rotating through the gun players. Managing, training, loading, whatever, but get them off and get them right now before it's too late. Stop running them into the ground.

Collingwood finished 17th then 4th.

Both of them were free agents (although Cameron ended up being a trade). Cameron was able to come across due to the Tim Kelly trade.

Here's my post ABSOLUTELY RAVING about the Billings trade when it happened: I didn't even post about Hunter, that's how high my expectations were. You got your hopes up about players we traded in for nothing. That's on you, not me. I'll get Tim Lamb to hold a mirror for you.

Weird. Almost like when you finish top and win a flag (then top 4 twice) you have less currency to trade for gun players... So weird.

Exceed. I thought both would likely be mostly VFL and if they played regular games it was a massive bonus given what we paid for them. Was worth a shot as both have skill sets that we needed, and we literally only gave up picks we wouldn't have used anyway. Not my fault if you expect a player...

Fair enough, he's absolutely not above criticism this week. Just think he's copping it in an over the top way this week.

He's struggling for sure, but he's not the only one, and in a game where clearances and ground balls were the story of the game he at least did his part there. There's obvs other areas he's sucking in, but calling for him to be dropped is just an excuse to bash him as whipping boy of the week.

MFC get linked to one player. Mich0: I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY PLAYER WE'RE BRINGING IN THIS YEAR! FFS.

In a team struggling with clearances and ground ball gets, there's 0 chance he comes out given the above stats. The cathartic bashing of him is getting a bit silly.