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Yes And if you are lucky enough to make it You won't get an arm chair ride Did I read correctly that you have a free kick differential that is + 379 since 2011.... The next best + 112 Half the teams obviously in the negative Wow... How weak minded are the umps, to let the crowd umpire?!

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I'll go there Current team How many finals have you won??

they won't get favoured next week Nor against Freo Or if the are lucky enough to get through to the GF Definitely not at the MCG Stats clearly suggest that at Subi you have s distinct advantage... Is that being argued??

So proud of drilling a bottom 4 team You are too arrogant (or sensative?) to admit you got a nice run Hawthorn has earned the right to be arrogant Win some finals first

78 tackles and 3 HTBs??? A little strange one must admit We never really were a chance... And not to concerned with losing. Against a better side on the other side of the country But going down in a fair game would be nice Are you suggesting WC didn't have a good run?? Could be a 300 point...

Actually this was the worst scenario for WCE Now it will be focussed on (the obvious bias) And in a game that matter... Next week ... Umps will have it in the forefront of their small minds... To keep it somewhat fair. They'd have been better off losing the count by 10 and only winning by 40pts

Not sure the Eagles have won the flag yet?... You've finished second in the H&A season... Hmmm... In this game They beat a side that have checked out early after battling through a long season... They won't get the easy running forward joe the goose stuff against Hawthorn, nor will they get...

They've got a good player... Wow Obviously means no other team can have, because they are not as good as 'Bont' FFS Anyone would think he's already Chris Judd and won a brownlow and achieved something Come back and spruik when he's Nat Fyfe

A player on that pay packet? Not many would be... Nick Riewoldt before he took a pay cut. I won't compare the output difference, it would be embarrassing. I think BJ Goddard is around the 800k mark... He's won a b&f and is 3 times the player. Fact is Tippett would be in the top ten paid...

It was more the Ross Lyon mess. The 2009 recruiting bungle of Letting go Luke Ball, a former club captain, b&f and close mate of the leaders for absolutely zero compensation because of pride was moronic Ball played another 90 games, finished top 5 in the b&f Recruiting (after trading a first...

Hawthorn should nab him. It's absolutely fair how a top team should be able to recruit guns from lower clubs. Just like Sydney do... Add to Burgoyne, Lake, Frawley, Hale, McEvoy, Gibson, Gunston. Perhaps Dangerfield too? They are making the most of a system... Good on them. It's great for footy.

I bet I could find other players on his pay packet with better numbers. As a second ruckmen, he is reasonable. A player on his wage should be elite Wasn't that the point of the post. The knowledge of some people who make smart arse replies amuses me

Sydney have basically paid 3 Million For 40 games 94 goals 10ppg 1.8 tackles pg 8HO per game At this stage... For income vs output He's disappointing Top echelon money... Mid range or less performance

Perhaps he is taking notes.... Possibly not of a 20yo with stats only marginally better than his... Maybe he watches Winguard, Pendlebury, Bruest, Deledio, Luke Parker Players of that ilk Or Least Marcus had front row seats when Jack took a game away from him this year...

Having an argument of who could possibly be better in the future... Only could be those who've achieved little in the past. What a ridiculous argument, is one where there is no possibility of certainty?! It's foolish. Carrying on about the dogs, like its a fait accompli that they are the next...

Didn't Billings come back from a knee which cost him 8 weeks at the start of the year.... Played 9 The last couple he was battling shin soreness... I'd say He is going alright. Like the Wells and Goddard debate (where it was categorically stated Wells was far better in 2005) Let's wait...

Oh, And Nate Fyfe will be the best player in the AFL in 18 months... As he is now.

No Cyril's far better than him.... Ask Brereton... FFS Winguard is clearly the most dangerous small fwd in the AFL easily IMO Cyril has a good defensive side and creates goals, as does Cripps and a few others...but only hit the scoreboard once or twice a game Betts and Bruest hit the...

He's kicked 21 in his first 25 games Ended a couple of games prematurely and been sub. To me that's a goal kicking HF Expect that to be 1.5 per game in his third and fourth year.... He is very immature physically and has had limited pre seasons both years Also 18ppg (8 contested) 2.3...

It's a wonder Cam Mooney didn't make it? Rates premiership players too highly.... Being a premiership player is reliant upon team talent not individual From a Stk pov Tony Lockett won a brownlow, Coleman, B&F, a century and averaged 4.5 a game in a team that won 4 wooden spoons in the 80s...

I would say Billings is in the Nathan Brown, Winguard, Dalhuis, Akermanis mould.... As in He may never be a pure mid... But more a forward flanker But to have an elite talent in that position can be very dangerous

Dunstan has limitations like 680 other AFL players. No player is perfect. Acres hasn't shown much yet at AFL level as he is very raw in the development curve. Class above VFL Billings showed in his debut year vs WCE why he is an elite talent. 25 disposals 100% efficiency 3 goals... If Cyril...

I'd suggest there is a difference between underrated an improved.

Just about everyone at some stage came from a state league team? Peter Hudson, Darryl Baldock, Malcolm Blight, Alex Jesalenko, Nathan Buckley, Nicky Winmar just to name a few Even TAC cup kids often played VFL before playing Bartel, Johnson, Chapman, Ablett all played in a state league...

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I would suggest having seen a lot of the young saints at VFL and AFL level that Billings, Newnes, McCartin, Goddard, Lonie, McKenzie, Sinclair, Dunstan, Acres, Bruce, Webster Will make it, and join Steven, Armitage as good or better AFL players Ross, Templeton, Membrey, Wright, Longer will...

He just isn't that great. I'll take substance over flashy style thanks. His 'tagger' is actually called a 'small defender' Most small Fwds have them... Actual midfielders get tagged Still haven't answered the question Why is such a great player Only a A forward pocket who rarely dominates...

On Lonie, Yeah... Just shows you how ridiculous it is He is a baby Both creative, both lefties, both good tacklers... One 18... One 26 Rioli 14 poss 4.4 tackles 1.4 goals Lonie 13 poss 3.8 tackles 0.8 goals One playing in the best team in the AFL One in a bottom 4 team

Of course it's beyond numbers He doesn't get the pill much so that wouldn't help your argument. Question How could he effect a game as much as Sam Mitchell When Sam gets it more and is more efficient He doesn't Which is why Sam has won 4 b&fs and Cyril... How many In fact how many top 5...