Autopsy Round 10, 2024: St.Kilda v Fremantle

[projectv]

Disappointing loss but the future is bright when you have kids like Phillipou getting a lot of the footy and throwing their body in with no regard for their own safety.

A lot of the footy? Philippou had 4 disposals.

 

[StCicatriz]

Wrong, StKilda originally had pick 6 , which could have landed Serong.
6 was traded for 12 and 18, then we got pick 10 back after we traded 12 and 18 for Howard and Ryder.

Another ****ing howler because gags and lethers were playing super coach.

 

[Saintbloke]

Looks to me like a lot of players are not responding to Lyon's outdated 2010 game plan. The body language shows they are not enjoying their football. Half the team could quite easily be dropped to Sandy, but Sandy are so bad, that you have to think, what's the point

 

[bergholt]

2. Remember the last time Freo came to Marvel under Ratten? Saints got obliterated in the 2nd half. Worse than tonight.

Freo kicked 4.12 in the second half tonight and should probably have kicked 12.4. That would have been fair for the run of play imo.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Another ******* howler because gags and lethers were playing super coach.

Well jeeze...Dave.... i guess. ya'd be like simple...if ya just used ya draft pick and picked the best player in the draft.

 

[gringo2011]

Another ******* howler because gags and lethers were playing super coach.

Lethlean was the new Pelican.

 

[Ads734]

How good was Zac jones giving away two frees then taking a crap advantage

 

[SAINTsincebirth]

We all know where our midfield stands BUT our forward line shouldn’t be so bad. You can’t win a game with just 8 goals. It’s just so s….!!!!! I’m calling ECO

Mid field supplies the forward line. If supply is so crap, your forwards will not score. inside 50 stats can be deceptive, as they don't show how bad the supply was.

 

[Saint Shags]

No chance you’re getting a first round compo for Battle.

Depends on what his contract is.
And there'd be a number of clubs interested. Unlike last year that had only Essendon in the hunt for Gresh.

And to be honest if he was at any other club you'd expect a 1st for him.

 

[marcus1232]

Another ******* howler because gags and lethers were playing super coach.

We would of ****ed Serongs development up anyway

 

[phantom13]

We are far better than this.

Are we? What’s that based on?

 

[Saintbloke]

I just see Enright sitting up in the coach's box and think what could have been.

 

[Premium]

we are legit bottom 4 now(hawthorn will win a few more,they can see the light),can we get something right and stay there and get ourselves a decent pick?or can i just predct it with so much ease already,that we will get on a little mini roll and come hurtling home to finish 10th or 11th,just to completely top off the frustration?

are we keeping in contact telling mccluggage that we are tanking,as a best path to a flag?trying to offset the"no way im going to that crap club"thing that we surely must have

My take on it is you have no chance of winning any game if you can at least make a contest in the midfield - tonight was a perfect example .
Even our development of our kids will suffer if we can get first use of the ball.

Some how we need to find a midfield

Having a discussion with my uncle who was at the game. I floated the thought that perhaps Battle is out the door? Saints view it as if the contract is good enough ie a McKay type compo pick and we finish low enough that we nab 2 top 10 picks.
Not saying I'd want to see Battle leave but i could definitely see Saints powerbrokers think they were being 'smart'. Like we were 'smart' with BJ and Dal.

I have no confidence in Sos or Lyon

 

[SaintsSeptember]

We would of ****ed Serongs development up anyway

WHAT WAS THAT SOLDIER.....WE DON'T SHOW OFF BY KICKING GOALS AT STKILDA.
DROP AND GIVE ME 10.

 

[marcus1232]

Our whole strategy in the midfield is Roma grab it out of the ruck and dump kick it forward.
That is our Plan A

 

[bergholt]

I actually wouldn't be completely surprised if RTB quit in the next month or two. If he can't get through to the players then he might think the game's not worth the candle.

 

[#1_pigeonracer]

I still reckon RTB is the right coach.

But... geez it'd be nice to see at least one player improve this year. They've only gotten worse under his tenure. Bit worrying.

This feels awfully familiar as do sub 20k crowds at Marvel. Pay him out, stop the rot.

 

[hotdish]

How did Ben Paton go tagging Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

?! If the saints are serious, Paton and Z Jones should never play again and delisted at years end.

Play Hotton, Hastie and anyone with two arms and two legs over those two blokes.

Stocker, Seb and Membrey not playing VFL tomorrow, so they really are rested lol.

 

[seasonedsainter]

How was Steele's leadership. Top effort.

Most ineffective captain in the League, wet lettuce springs to mind.

 

[NoisyMinor]

I'm starting a petition to build a third elite training facility.

 

[kernelT]

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

We kicked 2 goals within the first 10 minutes or so, then 6 more for the rest of the game. Midfield is bloody sparse. We do some dumb s**t too, chip it around in our backline then give it to our ruckman to take the exit kick. Lot of hospital handballs. Lot of broken tackles.

Also I never usually criticise coaching because you never know what the players are told as opposed to how they execute, but heck me Paton as a forward for 85% of this game? WTF were they thinking? We DROPPED Hayes, Garcia and Hastie and brought in Paton to run around like a headless chook in the forward line. SURELY Hayes is better as a forward even if he's less mobile, he has genuine forward craft and is a decent 2nd ruck. We bring in Jones and Phillipou (let's be honest Jones time as an AFL footballer is done, he's depth) then play Phillipou on ball where he cannot get a touch and was struggling before getting dropped, then at the end of the game throw him forward and he actually kicks a goal and presents at 2 marking contests well (unlucky not to get paid one mark/in the back at a contest), WTF is the logic in persisting with him at stoppages when he's not showing promise as a mid but has shown promise as a forward? Honestly setting ourselves up for failure.

Some real questionable coaching and selection decisions.

He dropped a sitter, that virtually killed us off

 

[PJays]

Wrong, StKilda originally had pick 6 , which could have landed Serong.
6 was traded for 12 and 18, then we got pick 10 back after we traded 12 and 18 for Howard and Ryder.

I'm not "wrong", I'm responding to someone saying we gave up Acres and Serong for Hill.

The broader point though is valid- we should've kept pick 6. Far too many times St Kilda has given up their top pick over the last 15 or 16 years. I think they've learnt their lesson now. We haven't traded our top pick since 2019.

 

[puntking]

Looks to me like a lot of players are not responding to Lyon's outdated 2010 game plan. The body language shows they are not enjoying their football. Half the team could quite easily be dropped to Sandy, but Sandy are so bad, that you have to think, what's the point

What makes u think Ross trying 2010 game plan? U in the box and meetings with him? Come on mate he has coaches around him that have been in other great clubs recently u think they haven’t given him advice? It’s not the coaching staff, u can polish a shit so much it’s still a shit

 

[projectv]

s**t club. s**t game.

Maybe someone who's at the game can comment but on TV I swear I've seen more life at a cemetery.

Commentators even said it felt like a morgue in there.

Not surprised it felt like a morgue.

I'm not going to another game this year, literally a waste of my time to make the effort, if the club won't.