Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[fairbump_playon]

I'm losing my mind at how Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

is being defended. Am I missing something?

Whateley saying Greene wasn't moving fast unlike Wright. And "was contesting the ball when he left the ground".

He was sprinting to make the contest. I reckon he turned side on earlier and more fully than Wright.

Maybe lack of serious injury changed the narrative. That seems pretty random though.

 

[Ati Tude]

Norwood want the next AFL licence. The Norwood Kangaroos!

My that'd put a * ton of noses out of joint on both sides of the border. I say the AFL make it happen.

Would be known as Norfwood

 

[eth-dog]

the joondalup quokkas

i like the sound of it

They'd be the Falcons

 

[Sporno 4 Pyros]

Bonkers to think that North didn’t go harder for pick 1 with the draft hand they had. They could have effectively given up pick2 and Ben Reid

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Ben Reid

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.0

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.0

1star

(pick3) and got him. Instead they stuffed around, offered up pick2 and a bunch of late first rounders.
They could have even received multiple first round picks from the bulldogs for pick 3.
Crazy

*Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

 

[BratPack]

I'm losing my mind at how Toby Greene is being defended. Am I missing something?

Whateley saying Greene wasn't moving fast unlike Wright. And "was contesting the ball when he left the ground".

He was sprinting to make the contest. I reckon he turned side on earlier and more fully than Wright.

Maybe lack of serious injury changed the narrative. That seems pretty random though.

I think respectfully we were watching different video.

 

[ghostdog]

Would be known as Norfwood

The Redboners?

 

[Call Me Cake]

Norfwoulda's

 

[fairbump_playon]

I think respectfully we were watching different video.

Tell me more

What do you reckon was different

 

[faible]

Tell me more

What do you reckon was different

~ 15k - 20kg of mass?

 

[fairbump_playon]

~ 15k - 20kg of mass?

Ha ha, yep.

Definitely should get extra weeks if you're a bit heavier

 

[yodellinhank]

Ha ha, yep.

Definitely should get extra weeks if you're a bit heavier

The AFL stopped publishing weights too, so they can do whatever they want like free agency compensation.

 

[JayJ20]

I'm so so glad Clarko chose North and saved Essendon from themselves. He's been a disaster for them.

 

[Milanista28]

This is non Essendon and football stuff...

Got to tick off number 1 on my bucket list, attend a Milan Derby, wish we'd won but I couldn't be happier to have finally seen this live in person.

 

[Rick Ross]

As if we needed evidence WADA is an organisation that should neither be respected or guidance taken from them.

WADA applied a low onus of proof on Essendon prosecution. Circumstantial case achieved with no positive tests.

Chinese swimmers - tested positive but not even prosecuted because of an excuse / cover story.

WADA accepts Chinese swimmers tested positive to banned substance due to contaminated kitchen

The World Anti-Doping Agency says it stands firmly by its investigation into the case of 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive to the same banned substance, as questions are raised over claims of food contamination.

www.abc.net.au

I’m not sure if this fits in this thread… so feel free to redirect.

 

[faible]

As if we needed evidence WADA is an organisation that should neither be respected or guidance taken from them.

WADA applied a low onus of proof on Essendon prosecution. Circumstantial case achieved with no positive tests.

Chinese swimmers - tested positive but not even prosecuted because of an excuse / cover story.

WADA accepts Chinese swimmers tested positive to banned substance due to contaminated kitchen

The World Anti-Doping Agency says it stands firmly by its investigation into the case of 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive to the same banned substance, as questions are raised over claims of food contamination.

www.abc.net.au

I’m not sure if this fits in this thread… so feel free to redirect.

Small domestic sport versus giant powerhouse just before the olympics with Russia already banned.

WADA don’t have the interest in pursuing this IMO

 

[justlookingaround]

Eagles resting Reid the week before we play them in Perth.

 

[ant555]

As if we needed evidence WADA is an organisation that should neither be respected or guidance taken from them.

WADA applied a low onus of proof on Essendon prosecution. Circumstantial case achieved with no positive tests.

Chinese swimmers - tested positive but not even prosecuted because of an excuse / cover story.

WADA accepts Chinese swimmers tested positive to banned substance due to contaminated kitchen

The World Anti-Doping Agency says it stands firmly by its investigation into the case of 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive to the same banned substance, as questions are raised over claims of food contamination.

www.abc.net.au

I’m not sure if this fits in this thread… so feel free to redirect.

It shows how we got ****ed over in the process but it was ASADA that kept pushing for WADA to prosecute us unlike the Chinese who presented a case for not guilty. At the end of the day I still blame the club for allowing Dank in. He had already been run out of Rugby League for dodgy practices. Not a popular opinion but Hird and Cochran allowed it to happen.

 

[justlookingaround]

This is non Essendon and football stuff...

Got to tick off number 1 on my bucket list, attend a Milan Derby, wish we'd won but I couldn't be happier to have finally seen this live in person. View attachment 1968248View attachment 1968249

Nice, a few years ago I was in Pasadena ticking off a college football game at the Rose Bowl from my bucket list ... unfortunately I had eaten too many tacos that day and I shit myself walking through the never ending car park and we had to leave

 

[MiguelM]

So Hogan free to play.

Maybe Redman should have appealed?

 

[P Money]

So Hogan free to play.

Maybe Redman should have appealed?

I'm sure I said at the time that we should appeal based on 'insufficient force' and was shouted down with claims that that defence doesn't exist.

Can we please change the law firm that has done absolutely nothing for this club since time immemorial?

 

[justlookingaround]

can't see any way Greene gets off

 

[Phone]

I still don't think Redman had a chance of getting the force downgraded given it was with both hands and clearly made contact, but that's some good work from GWS.

very interested in this green case. I thought since Wright was sent straight to the tribunal, we should have tried to fight a little bit but instead we just accepted it. As we've seen a lot over the last 2 years, the tribunal and the MRO aren't always on the same page and I think this one needs some test cases.

 

[P Money]

Greene's action undoubtedly worse than Wright's. Took his eyes off the ball earlier, turned his body sooner to be completely side on with full shoulder impact directly to the head. I get that the outcome is a driver for the length of suspension and don't necessarily disagree with that, but the commentary around Greene being hard done by compared to the practically zero support for Wright is mind-boggling.

Also another example of the bomber's lawyer's having no idea - I'd be pretty confident (without researching) that Wright's 'character' as a person and player (history of reports/suspensions etc) would be at least as high as Cameron's but our lawyers didn't think to raise that. Completely useless.

 

[andleanback]

Greene's action undoubtedly worse than Wright's. Took his eyes off the ball earlier, turned his body sooner to be completely side on with full shoulder impact directly to the head. I get that the outcome is a driver for the length of suspension and don't necessarily disagree with that, but the commentary around Greene being hard done by compared to the practically zero support for Wright is mind-boggling.

Also another example of the bomber's lawyer's having no idea - I'd be pretty confident (without researching) that Wright's 'character' as a person and player (history of reports/suspensions etc) would be at least as high as Cameron's but our lawyers didn't think to raise that. Completely useless.

Almost the same as wrights his eyes were still on the ball as he led the ground

We need to sack the lawyer we use though and get another one. The case we use is always horrendous. Other clubs manage to knit pick the rules into their favour

 

[Zach Package]

Beginning to think that the ******* that represented us at the tribunal and with WADA is not the brilliant legal mind he lead us to believe he was.