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[Exe Gesis]

What is it with you?
I really couldn't give a toss about who throws the ball better, we are debating the greatest quarterback of all time. Manning is not even close to Joe Montana yet alone Brady so why are you trying convince me otherwise?

What is "best" tho? Rings is a very weak argument. Barry Sanders and Walter Payton were the greatest RBs of their time. Sanders never sniffed a SB, and Payton only finally saw one at the end of his career. It's a team sport, and things like standard of D or dominant run game, OL, coaching, play a big part in why teams win championships, have dynasties, etc. Even special teams plays a part....like we saw today can be the reason a team won. Even last week, Chiefs vs Bengals

 

[My Tilly]

Is getting it done all on the QB? Did he blow the coverage that time against the Ravens or something?

Swap the quarterbacks on their teams- I don't know if Brady wins with the Colts, I'm very confident Belichik could win with that Patriots defence and Manning.

Belichick has now gone 18-20 when Tom departed.
And I don't for one second believe Peyton could have replicated what Tom did. I do think Eli could have done something special as he played his best football when playoffs came along. He obviously had stronger mental fortitude when it got close and butt cheeks were tense.

lol give me a break!
Honestly, absolutely dumbfounded some of the crap posted by you guys.
You are suppose to be NFL followers and here we are debating why Mahomes, Rodgers and Manning are better players than a bloke who is universally regarded as the Michael Jordan of his sport.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Mannings weapons were rarely the same anywhere else. I mean, he made a superbowl off the back of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon.

He made Dallas Clark and Jacob Tamme look like top 5-10 TEs

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Belichick has now gone 18-20 when Tom departed.
And I don't for one second believe Peyton could have replicated what Tom did. I do think Eli could have done something special as he played his best football when playoffs came along. He obviously had stronger mental fortitude when it got close and butt cheeks were tense.

lol give me a break!
Honestly, absolutely dumbfounded some of the crap posted by you guys.
You are suppose to be NFL followers and here we are debating why Mahomes, Rodgers and Manning are better players than a bloke who is universally regarded as the Michael Jordan of his sport.

 

[aussiedude]

He made Dallas Clark and Jacob Tamme look like top 5-10 TEs

got Piere Garcon paid by Washington.

 

[Exe Gesis]

And fuey is right. The MVP today was the Chiefs OL. The vaunted near record-breaking sack masters couldnt touch Mahomes all game. That was a hige reason why Chiefs won. Look at how the Bucs destroyed Mahomes a few years ago, thats how ineffective a QB is without an OL, and also why a team might not have a run game either (apart from Barry Sanders, imo, the Marino of RBs)....throwing everything at stopping him, and had no help from any other aspect of the team. Both players literally carried their teams thruout their careers but just couldnt go further in the playoffs due to lack of a team around them.

As Rod Woodson says, Marino would've won 10 SBs if the Steelers and their D/run had drafted him.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

got Piere Garcon paid by Washington.

Forever injured with the Skins.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Belichick has now gone 18-20 when Tom departed.
And I don't for one second believe Peyton could have replicated what Tom did. I do think Eli could have done something special as he played his best football when playoffs came along. He obviously had stronger mental fortitude when it got close and butt cheeks were tense.

lol give me a break!
Honestly, absolutely dumbfounded some of the crap posted by you guys.
You are suppose to be NFL followers and here we are debating why Mahomes, Rodgers and Manning are better players than a bloke who is universally regarded as the Michael Jordan of his sport.

Jordan was undisputedly the best player in the league every year he played in his prime. Brady almost never was for his entire career.

 

[My Tilly]

Yes we are debating the best QB of all time. not the most accomplished or successful.

And I just explained to you why Brady sits far out in front.
5 super bowl MVP's v 1.
11-6 all time record over Manning.

I mean it's not even close.

 

[Southerntakeover]

And I just explained to you why Brady sits far out in front.
5 super bowl MVP's v 1.
11-6 all time record over Manning.

I mean it's not even close.

Manning 3-2 in playoffs. Guess Brady didnt have that clutch gene.

 

[Southerntakeover]

He made Dallas Clark and Jacob Tamme look like top 5-10 TEs

What about Julius Thomas? Dude went from no one to ****ing amazing to no one so quick.

 

[aussiedude]

And I just explained to you why Brady sits far out in front.
5 super bowl MVP's v 1.
11-6 all time record over Manning.

I mean it's not even close.

Wins are not a QB stat.

Its a team game mate.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Manning had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for much of his Colts career....they are both elite. And Manning-Harrison combination broke tons of records.

Brady had gadget receivers for much of his early Pats career, why he was more supreme manager when Manning was putting up sexy stats

 

[Southerntakeover]

Like point to any point in his career, there was a player generally regarded as better than Brady.

 

[My Tilly]

Manning 3-2 in playoffs. Guess Brady didnt have that clutch gene.

Counter to your argument . . . why only 2 Super bowl wins for Peyton?
Did you watch him in his final appearance for Broncos (all time great defense), that would have to go down as the worst performance in a winning team the game had seen in the modern era.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Counter to your argument . . . why only 2 Super bowl wins for Peyton?

He should have taped more teams practices imo

 

[aussiedude]

Manning had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for much of his Colts career....they are both elite. And Manning-Harrison combination broke tons of records.

Brady had gadget receivers for much of his early Pats career, why he was more supreme manager when Manning was putting up sexy stats

Manning changed the game with presnap stuff and hard counts.

I guess you could give Tom the Tuck rule.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Wins are not a QB stat.

Its a team game mate.

It's like talking to Skip Bayless on big footy.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I mean without Brady game managing like Trent Dilfer twice vs the Rams #1 offense in a Superbowl where would the Pats be?

Thats why he's so special.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Look, the simple thing is, QBs are all different types. Manning and Brady are not alike. Montana and Marino are not alike. They all are the best at their jobs, but they possess different skill sets and abilities. The right answer is not trying to separate them, rank them, one ahead of another due to this or that reason. But to appreciate them all equally. Tbh, i dont buy the Brady rubbishing or the Brady glorifying, or any of the elite QBs.

 

[Southerntakeover]

It's like talking to Skip Bayless on big footy.

That reminds me

 

[aussiedude]

It's like talking to Skip Bayless on big footy.

I think Skip does it as an act. he isnt that delusional.

but then again that one last year where Shannon almost jumped the desk because Skip went personal because Shannon said Tom was over the hill.

 

[My Tilly]

He should have taped more teams practices imo

lol, and this is why I'm out.
Talk about a pack of sorry losers.
GG.exe is one of the few who actually knows his stuff in here.

Have a good night.

Go Chiefs!
Told you fools they'd win it in a classic.

 

[fuey]

angry react to Gainwell first TD bet, that is brutal.

Oh **** isn't it... was so my luck

 

[Southerntakeover]

Look, the simple thing is, QBs are all different types. Manning and Brady are not alike. Montana and Marino are not alike. They all are the best at their jobs, but they possess different skill sets and abilities. The right answer is not trying to separate them, rank them, one ahead of another due to this or that reason. But to appreciate them all equally. Tbh, i dont buy the Brady rubbishing or the Brady glorifying, or any of the elite QBs.

Shut up Switzerland